He then spends three weeks with her in psychoanalytic therapy, preparing her for re-entering the world. After the exorcism, Dr. Peck is in contact with her over the years. During one visit, she explains to him that the demons still talk to her, but she is able to ignore them. However, out of curiosity, Dr. Peck asks to hypnotize her, as he did in the past, and to speak to the demons through her. She agrees and the resulting conversation is confusing.
Nothing particularly demonic happens; instead, the entity speaking through Jersey identifies itself as a clerk living in Anaheim. He ends the hypnotic session and sees her rarely after that, though she, at press time, is happy, healthy, and no longer possessed. I am appalled. Shame on you, Dr. Peck, for opening the door to allow a demon to speak through Jersey. They could be about plumbing or IT development but are instead about exorcisms.
At the time that Dr. In his books, Father Amorth advises, quite sensibly, against engaging a demon in conversation. Because they lie. The lure of talking to something not human is immense. Peck is fascinated with the idea that Beccah is possessed by Satan, an evil creature millions of years old. He senses a giant, immoveable snake, as old as the world itself, coiled supernaturally around or inside of his patient.
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He wonders why it has possessed her. He asks it questions. He does everything except exorcise it. Maybe it went differently, and his ruminations are for the book only. But the exorcism of Beccah took a subtle shift from the exorcism of Jersey. With Jersey, he very strongly orders the demons to leave for three days straight. With Beccah, he ends up falling to the floor weeping at one point and another team member must step in and complete the exorcism.
Is it no wonder that it turned out the way it did? Peck has drawn, aided by Malachi Martin, about the reasons behind demonic possession. Both men claim that every possessed person is complicit in their possession, that to become possessed, one must open the door for that possession, even if only a crack. When the first patient Jersey was twelve, her father molested her. He held a PhD and was a practicing psychologist but was not a medical doctor. Peck claims that at twelve years old, Jersey knew the difference between a psychologist and a medical doctor.
She willfully believed a lie, and therefore, she opened the door to being possessed. Are you kidding me, Dr. I have no idea why that poor girl was possessed, but the only proof the author had that her demonic interference started at twelve was her word while she was possessed. It could have been one of the demons speaking through her to hide the real timing and cause of the possession. Her bad behavior only starts manifesting in her twenties. Why did the demons wait so long? It is not suddenly a fact that the victim brought the horrific tragedy on herself just because she thinks she did.
Beccah was found wandering six streets away from her home when she was eighteen months old. Though little is known of her mother beyond that she was seen by Beccah as evil, this is exceedingly atypical behavior by a child in that age range, as asserted by Dr. Peck himself. Non-traumatized children nine months to several years old are afraid of strangers and cling desperately to their mothers. That Beccah ran away from home before she could talk says that she was already maladjusted, due to her circumstances, well before she had a choice in the matter.
While it is important to note that everyone has a choice and that choice is important in defeating a demon, we are all victims of our circumstances. A woman may end up being narcissistic because she was genetically predisposed and her mother modeled that behavior; she may free herself from it by taking responsibility for her actions. Going in is not a choice, but coming out is. The very definition of a demon is a creature that preys on human victims.
Have we forgotten what victims are? I admire Dr. Whenever we delve too far into specifics when it comes to religion, we become distracted and unable to see the entire picture. Exorcisms have been performed successfully for thousands of years across all cultures and religions, despite what the Catholic church might want people to believe. And sometimes, we can do nothing to stop being swept away by it. Educating ourselves on all aspects of evil and opening ourselves to understanding beyond our own narrow worldview will aid in defeating it in our own lives and as collective humanity.
Also posted on my blog, Magic and Mayhem Book Reviews. Aug 08, Jeff added it. Umm, very interesting. I think when I think of demon possession I am just so used to the "charismatic" responses of being "violent" that it's what I expected with this book, and though they were forceful in dealing with demons it showed me a different way of dealing with possession I never saw before. Very Umm, very interesting. Very interesting indeed. It also helped to identify some of the things we need to guard, and at the same time, what we need to deal with in our own lives, so we don't leave part of our lives open to the devil.
The book was less "glamourous" as hollywood makes exorcisms to be, but the one line that the author said was, "You had to be there I think I would recommend this book to some, but not all. Trust me, not all would be able to read, and understand this. Shelves: non-fiction , second-reading , science-psychology-philosophy. After First Reading This was a fantastic book. Peck is the first person to give us a proper account of exorcisms which is intelligently explained, completely and utterly convincing, and pretty damned scary.
As a psychiatrist, he details his daunting experiences with two particular patients who claim to be possessed by a demonic entity. Using his expertise and medical knowledge, he is neither biased nor at all ignorant in his dealings with this controversial subject. I won't say if he is successfu After First Reading This was a fantastic book. I won't say if he is successful or not, but I can tell you that in both cases he really does get glimpses of the devil, and manages to establish this terrifying privilege with nothing but medical expertise and a deft understanding of the human mind.
The psychological triggers for one of the patients is truly startling. After Second Reading Yep. Pretty much what I said before. I admire Peck's bravery in publishing on such a misunderstood concept. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of doctors in the psychiatric community who laughed behind his back. But Peck comes across as very down-to-earth. He's the best kind of Christian in that he still has the ability to doubt things and question them. All the same, while I do believe he speaks in earnest, some of this book probably should be taken with a grain of salt.
Oh, you like salt with your dinner?
Well, then, a grain of something you don't like, you fucking smartarse, you. I found it a little silly how quickly Peck jumped to the conclusion that he was dealing with Satan himself. I suppose it's one of those having to be there to understand it kind of things. On reading some less positive reviews for this book though, some questions were asked which I think could lead to answers quite as horrifying as the thought of demonic possession. Specifically the the possibility that, through his own obsession with prodding these mysteries, Peck projected the idea of possession into his patients and this, in turn, led to the downfall of one of them.
It is conceivable that someone could become convinced that they're possessed when really they are just schizophrenic or woke up on the wrong side of the bed or some damned thing. That would make Peck quite the villain. But look here, I don't think that was the case. I think Peck probably was the genuine article, and I certainly can get behind his wistful proposition that such areas as this should not be pushed into the realm of fiction by medical professionals as they have been. Science and religion are worlds apart now, and that's unfortunate because either one dispelling the other is a dead-end road to understanding our place in the universe.
There's just so many Atheists that one day God will be nothing more than a fictional fantasy like Hogwarts and unicorns and my imaginary girlfriend. View all 10 comments. May 05, Anne Hawn Smith rated it it was amazing Shelves: kindle , religion , philosophical , supernatural , read , own , read , satan.
This is an extremely interesting book.
The author, Dr. Scott Peck, is a well known psychiatrist and author. In his practice, he has seen situations in which modern medical thought is not sufficient to explain what is the problem for some of his patients. In People of the Lie he presented a number of situations in which either the patients or their family exhibited behavior that that was evil and yet they didn't suffer from a known mental illness.
This book goes beyond those earlier stories to i This is an extremely interesting book. This book goes beyond those earlier stories to incidents of actual possession.
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I met Dr. Peck when he came to our church for a weekend seminar and our small group came to know him very well. We were impressed with his wisdom and intelligence as well as his honesty and forthrightness.
In this book, he discusses cases of his which involved actual possession. He knew Malachi Martin, author of Hostage to the Devil and discussed some of these cases with him. People today are reluctant to even entertain the notion of a personal devil and yet as far back as the earliest records almost every civilization has a belief in devils. It is only the last 75 years that people have rejected the idea, especially when their image seems to only include a person in read tights with a trident and horns.
Lewis says that the devil is just as happy when people are obsessed with him as when they ridicule him. Either way, he is camouflaged and can go about his work. This is a great book to read with an open mind and learn from. Feb 27, Art rated it it was amazing. In this book, the author definitely hits a road less traveled pun intended. Peck talks about how he became interested in the possibility of demonic possession he was quite skeptical at first , his relations with the controversial Malachi Martin, and two patients he believes were demonically possessed.
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The book doesn't involve over-the-top "Exorcist" type of things. However, it is disturbing and creepy in parts. Jersey, Peck's first patient, is a twenty something who is severely neglecting he In this book, the author definitely hits a road less traveled pun intended. Jersey, Peck's first patient, is a twenty something who is severely neglecting her children and dabbling in a spiritualist cult. Peck is successfully able to "treat" her. Beccah, patient two, is a multi-millionaire married to an abusive crook.
Raised Jewish, Beccah eventually converted to Christianity. The mutilations she would perform with specially ordered "Nazi knives. Controversial, well-written, thought provoking. Oct 22, David Mackey rated it really liked it Shelves: theology , psychology. Scott Peck fascinates me. In this book he discusses his start as an unbeliever in demonic spirits, his attempt to test the matter scientifically, and his eventual decision that the demonic does exis M. In this book he discusses his start as an unbeliever in demonic spirits, his attempt to test the matter scientifically, and his eventual decision that the demonic does exist and his performing of two exorcisms.
The book felt choppy to me but seemed also an authentic attempt to express things that are difficult to understand which could result in public mockery, even the stripping of professional credentials. I read this volume in part because I am also reading his People of the Lie which is a more psychological approach to the question of human evil. Nov 27, Catherine rated it it was ok Shelves: from-the-library , I need to just step away from the crazy. Jul 04, Heather added it.
Worst book I've read on the subject. Really bad. No stars. Jul 12, Matt Evans rated it liked it. What we have here is the transcript of two or three, I forget exorcisms. Demons show up. I remember that one of the demons expressed awe or wonderment at the fact that we're able to live in such vulnerable circumstances.
The earth is a tear drop circling a furnace, when you think about it. Also, the demon's were under very strict regimentation. For any you Screwtape readers out there, this all will ring Not as good as Road Less Traveled or People of the Lie , but still very, very interesting. For any you Screwtape readers out there, this all will ring quite familiar. Feb 08, Linda Lipko rated it liked it. This is a fascinating look at two cases of Demonic Possession as witnessed by psychiatrist M. Blending science and religion, Peck emphatically states that possession is real and also rare. In both cases where he assisted with the exorcism, there was a definite time in the life of the client when they made a choice to allow evil to overtake them and there then was a choice that had to be made to accept love and light.
While the subject matter is dramatic, Peck did not embellish or shock This is a fascinating look at two cases of Demonic Possession as witnessed by psychiatrist M. While the subject matter is dramatic, Peck did not embellish or shock the reader into belief. The book is well written and logical in presentation. Jul 19, Rebekah marked it as to-read Shelves: abandoned.
Wherefore, he said unto Eve, yea, even that old serpent, who is the devil, who is the father of all b lies , wherefore he said: Partake of the forbidden fruit, and ye shall not die, but ye shall be as God, c knowing good and evil. For he gave commandment that all men must repent; for he showed unto all men that they were e lost , because of the transgression of their parents. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created; and they must have remained forever, and had no end.
And because that they are c redeemed from the fall they have become d free forever, knowing good from evil; to act for themselves and not to be acted upon, save it be by the punishment of the e law at the great and last day, according to the commandments which God hath given. And they are free to e choose f liberty and eternal g life , through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and power of the devil; for he seeketh that all men might be h miserable like unto himself.
And I have none other object save it be the everlasting a welfare of your souls. Show Hide. Wherefore, the ends of the law which the Holy One hath given, unto the inflicting of the d punishment which is affixed, which punishment that is affixed is in opposition to that of the happiness which is affixed, to answer the ends of the e atonement — 11 For it must needs be, that there is an a opposition in all things.
A universal discussion that leaves no stone unturned, no stream uncharted, and no argument untouched. Even as McClymond is unflinching in defending the historic orthodox consensus against the idea of universal salvation, his is a generous orthodoxy, the persuasiveness of which undoubtedly rests at least in part on his having taken time to listen to marginal voices and seriously grapple with the broadest extent of their claims within local and even global contexts.
It will be a long time before universalist theologians will be able to make a compelling case that is as comprehensive as that of The Devil's Redemption. McClymond shows that while the notion of universal salvation has attractive features, it does not have a very encouraging spiritual or theological track record in the history of the church. Keener , F. The first-ever complete history of the doctrine of universal salvation, it is a devastating demolition of the supposition that universalism can be sustained with exegetical or systematic integrity.
Addressing a theological issue of perennial interest, this comprehensive book in two volumes surveys the history of Christian universalism from the second to the twenty-first century and offers an interpretation of how and why universalist belief arose.
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What other items do customers buy after viewing this item? Share your thoughts with other customers. Write a customer review. Showing of 1 reviews. Top Reviews Most recent Top Reviews. There was a problem filtering reviews right now. Please try again later. Format: Hardcover. Let me say up front that I think that the core thesis in McClymond's new work is wrong. On both scores I think his argument fails to convince, though he does have a very solid attempt to make his case. I also think that his theological case against universalism is the most vulnerable aspect of the book and it is no surprise that I think that its critique of my own work leaves my arguments intact.
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We will never agree on his core case, but I esteem him as a scholar and a Christian. One person found this helpful.